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Direct vs reverse quote

Direct quote: USD is the quote currency (EUR/USD). Reverse quote: USD is the base (USD/JPY). Pip-value math differs between the two.

What it means

A direct quote, from a USD-account perspective, is a pair where USD is the quote currency: EUR/USD, GBP/USD, AUD/USD, NZD/USD. Pip value is constant at $10 per pip per standard lot. A reverse quote has USD as the base currency: USD/JPY, USD/CHF, USD/CAD. Pip value in dollars varies with the exchange rate because the quote-currency-to-USD conversion changes.

Why it matters

Pip-value math is fundamentally different between the two cases. Most retail traders memorize '$10 per pip per standard lot' and silently get it wrong on USD/JPY, where the real value is $6-9/pip depending on the rate. That math error compounds across a strategy — and is exactly the kind of detail that separates traders with verified expectancy from traders who think they're profitable but aren't.

How to use it

For direct quotes: pip value is constant; size purely on lot count. For reverse quotes: let the platform compute live pip value in the order ticket, OR compute manually as (lot size × pip size) / current rate. For cross pairs (EUR/JPY, GBP/AUD): pip value depends on the quote currency's rate vs your account currency — always use the platform's live calculation.

Example

Long 1 standard lot at EUR/USD 1.0850 → pip value $10 (direct). Long 1 standard lot at USD/JPY 150 → pip value = 100,000 × 0.01 / 150 = $6.67 (reverse).

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